18 Comments
User's avatar
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Dec 7
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
Shagbark's avatar

What a vacuous comment. WHICH Syrian people?

Expand full comment
Nakayama's avatar

Syrian people will have to fight a civil war to settle on their national path. Finland, Spain and China went through very brutal civil wars. I suspect it is inevitable for Syria. Before the dust settles, all foreign powers will try to dip into the sauce. Once you consider Israel's position and plans, that adds another layer of complexity. Both history and geography play against the people of Syria to have a stable and prosperous country. Unfortunately I don't have anything optimistic to say before the civil war runs its course.

Expand full comment
andy tonti's avatar

Ok then. Russia enters here in a puzzling situation. I believe they could crush this counter rebellion if they chose to. Will the embarrassed Empire then declare war for attacking US assets on occupied foreign soil? Possibly the sicko neocons can fabricate a confrontational event to develop an encounter with US troops!

Expand full comment
Nakayama's avatar

I think although the Russian military indeed can chew gum and run at the same time, their traditional cautious approach to events most likely would dictate a decision like the one presented by Mr. Lavrov to use minimal force and maximal diplomacy to solve the Syria crisis (not a fundamental permanent solution, as there might be none). If Erdogan does not know when to stop, stronger Russian forces will make their appearances known.

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

I thought I was considering them when I said I had this thing about open-air slave markets and millions of desperate refugees. Silly me.

Expand full comment
Nakayama's avatar

The top prize is regime change in Syria. Second place is the Russian naval base. The comfort prize would be the "we have hurt Russia somehow" narrative.

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

The first two are the same, for if there is no regime change the Russian base will remain. You're right about the comfort prize--they're already gloating about that.

Expand full comment
The Passionate Progressive's avatar

I heard the other 'giveaway' that this was a CIA op was that there are Ukrainians operating in Syria....source is/was Larry Johnson. I think Johnson also made the argument that this has been long in planning which wouldn't surprise me given the Israeli-Hezbollah cease fire which I think was part of the plan....Finally, I think it is/was more than coincidental that Richard Medhurst (independent journalist with Syrian roots who reported from the UK until arrested by MI-6 this past year) had been taken off the airways and is awaiting trial. Just sayin'

Expand full comment
The Watchman's avatar

Also there is another reason. There is a competing pipeline theory. Both pipelines go from the Gulf to Europe through Syria. The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline is backed by Russia, and the Qatar-Turkey pipeline is backed by the US. and perhaps Israel as well. See the article by The Good Citizen - https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/still-bleeding-syria that I linked on 12/2/24

Linking your take today @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Thank you! I had forgotten about Big Oil's dream project! A pipeline from American-controlled oil fields in Iraq and Syria to an American-controlled port on the eastern Mediterranean.

Which one makes little difference to Big Oil.

Expand full comment
Innomen's avatar

My modified version, autism moment: Hi-ho! Hi-ho! Oh the grift must flow, so off to war, profits galore, we go! Hi-ho Hi-ho Hi-ho!

And when that's done, there's another one, hi-ho, for the grift must always flow. :P

Good idea.

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

T'is the season for Christmas carol parody. That's a good one!

Expand full comment
CI Carlson's avatar

So who are the people? Dick Cheney is not at the levers right now. Blinken and Hochstein are both Zionists who refuse to do their day job of negotiating. But are they in charge of decisions? Who is captain of this AhabShip ?

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Well, Benjamin Netanyahu started calling for regime change in Iraq, Syria, and Iran in the 1990's. This is two out of three, so if I have to give the name of the captain of this little imperial operation I'd have to say it's him.

The Israel Lobby, AIPAC, ADL, Mossad's Epstein Files...NaziYahoo knows he has a lot of powerful people by the short hairs, and I think he's yanking them.

Great analogy with Ahab, BTW. Netanyahu's obsessed with destroying all of the backers of the Arab Resistance against Israel, and if Iran goes, he will have caught his great white whale.

Expand full comment
Penelope Prill's avatar

ABSOLUTE HORRIFYING TRUTH

Expand full comment
MrMickeysMom's avatar

You took the words right out of my mouth.... It must have been when I was screaming, "wash, rinse, repeat!" I was again sickened this morning by how Biden delivered his speechwriter's commentary. He has to continue to try to make words come out of his mouth on a Sunday morning. How Netanyahu becomes relevant over this latest destruction isn't as dreadful as remembering that this is playing out like the document I have when it was still called, "Project for a New American Century".

Expand full comment
jacob silverman's avatar

Hmmm.. did I not say something about this just recently, that the military forces of different big powers may align? And here it is. Here you have the U. S. government in an alliance with Sunnis like al Qaeda, etc. It is right there in front of you (I will not reply comments, other than from the author.) It is right there in front of you, Mr. Ohio, but you cannot see it because the official view forbids one to have saiuch a thought (whih was previously summarily dismissed by OhioB. as "absurd," I believe was the word, and it only LOOKS "absurd" because one is being directed to any place else. You can be sure no one will say what it going on: I believe I see an alliance of the U. S. government and Sunni terrorists.

Expand full comment
Ohio Barbarian's avatar

OK. I'm the moderator of my own Substack, but I was a real moderator at a little political discussion site for a few years, so old habits tell me to advise you of one of my own personal Terms of Service before taking any permanent action on your reply privileges here.

I don't like carrying over arguments from previous posts onto new ones, neither do most of my subscribers, and I won't put up with it on my own site, so stop doing that or I'll ban you. There, courtesy extended.

As for the specific points you make in this particular comment, I agree with you, and so does everybody who has been following me for a long time. We all know that the US created Al-Qaeda. We all know that the US, the Saudis, the UAEers and the British have been funding their spiritual descendants in Syria, and we've known it for YEARS.

Don't teach your grandpa how to load a revolver.

Expand full comment