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Rachel's avatar

Thank you! Those tweets from Code Pink were nauseating. Really!

I got back into Real Left Stuff only a year ago. Went down this road before in the early 2000s and just turned completely away from politics. Probably out of disgust.

But it is beyond confusing re-entering this world nowadays. I'm stunned at the stupid non-alignments. Confused! One month I'm trying to figure out why Brian Becker says "don't align with this group but it's cool to align with this group." Then another one (Rev Left host) says no true lefties should listen to Jimmy Dore. And I spend weeks trying to understand why I'm supposed to hate Jimmy Dore.

The world socialist website says that workers must unite, then in the next breath endorses the prosecution of Trump.

Brianna Joy Gray? I can't with her anymore. She's smart enough to know what she's doing. SHE KNOWS. Every time she brings Finkelstein on she starts belting the Democrats' theme songs. She stinks to high heaven.

Project Censored also straddles the line. They hate on Trump voters. I fast forward when Lee Camp rants trans talk.

So, it's been a real doozy re-acquainting myself with leftist American politics.

I believe the Real Left IS Jimmy Dore. It IS Russel Brand. But names don't matter, purity tests don't matter. It's about what we can accomplish together, and all these grifters are blocking our union.

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Diana Barahona's avatar

I was a member of the PSL. It is an NSA mind-control project, which mostly exists to keep their assets close by. When the Beckers kicked me out (I wasn't ever welcomed in because I wasn't one of their mind-controlled assets) I took two men with me without intending to. Both men had been abducted, mind-fractured, and their alters programmed as toddlers.

So if dealing with people on the left is perplexing, that's why. You can almost see how their minds are divided into multiple personalities, each one walled off from the other one. Amy Goodman is a good example--she's robotic.

WSWS, like all Trotskyist groupings, is NSA-controlled. They were the only Trotskyists who didn't support the war on Syria, but that was just to net anti-imperialists.

Everyone in academia is mind-controlled. Listen to Steve Pieczenik say he was going to have the presidents of MIT, Harvard and Cornell arrested: https://open.substack.com/pub/dianabarahona/p/we-are-in-a-military-coup-cia-officer

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Rachel's avatar

What is your take on Aaron Good? He's become one of the only ones I trust.

Also, what about Glenn Greenwald? I love a lot of what he says, but I've heard people suspect he's not who we think he is. He agrees with the Citizens United decision. How the hell does that square with real establishment opposition?

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Diana Barahona's avatar

I follow Glenn Greenwald on Rumble, as well as Jimmy Dore. Greenwald is a conservative, as far as I can tell. He's said positive things about Lula, who was a WEF puppet. But that's why I like Greenwald: he gives credit for good actions, and doesn't reflexively judge anyone based on partisanship.

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Rachel's avatar

Greenwald is like an anti-establishment, radical free speech, gay conservative. Lol. I just heard a 9/11 researcher named Ryan Dawson question Greenwald's integrity once. But I regularly listen to Greenwald, and that Dawson guy is good on 9/11 but I don't regularly watch him because he seems to cater to single men or something. I could be totally off on that, he's definitely worth visiting for 9/11 info though.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

He isn't a conservative, where did this weird idea come from the MSM? I am quite certain he is anti-capitalist and pro single payer health care.

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Rachel's avatar

Yeah, I think at this point the problem is former Democrats who hate what the party has become, and for me in particular, the use of "the left" as pertaining to far right Democrat nonsense, really confuses everything. These terms anger me more than anything- when I listen to anti-establishment allies rant about "the left" - DEMOCRATS ARE NOT LEFT <pounds head on stone wall>

One thing about your comment I kinda disagree with BUT hope you are right- the anti-capitalist part.

I've only been listening to him for about a year, and he rarely talks about how capitalism is destroying us. I know he has mentioned several times that he supports the Citizens United position. That's about as pro-capitalist as possible.. I would love it if he is anti-capitalist, but I tune in to him for mainly privacy and Dem bashing.

One thing that kinda concerns me about him is the emotions he elicits during the show. I listen while I work, and usually his show gets me very angry. I get very angry and fired up. Which, fine, good to feel passionate. I just kinda wonder about that. And it just goes back to his support of Citizens United. That is a big ass puzzle piece that doesn't fit.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

No, I am quite certain Greenwald considers himself to be some variant of socialist and supports things like single payer healthcare. He may be socially conservative (even as a gay man), but then the woke would say Che is socially conservative as well. IMO a material class analysis is what makes someone an actual leftist. Social leftism is a CIA Congress of Cultural Freedom psy-op going back to the 1950s.

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Rachel's avatar

Yeah, I agree intellectually. Pop culture has just muddled left/right that it's hard to use those terms anymore. Doesn't it annoy you when people refer to Democrats as the left? I mean talk about a total psy op right there.

Another thought- if we're gonna fight these f×÷÷ers, we must unite people. Perhaps new terms are in order, or a dumping of the left/right bullshit? I mean Dem woke words are so "right wing" in a materialist perspective. I just think the terms are useless now in identifying who fights for the oppressed, and who defends the oppressor.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Yes I think left and right are a dead letter, I consider myself to be on the right now whatever that even means, but I am quite certain I have read more Marx, Kropotkin, Emma Goldman, David Graber, etc than 99% of most self proclaimed leftists and "progressives."

I think the Occupy formulation of the 99% v.s. the 1% was actually a really good formulation, and that's why the mainstream media got marching orders to replace that idea that unites ordinary people with woke identity politics that divides ordinary people along race, sex, and sexuality lines.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

He isn't a conservative. Other than possibly culturally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KxHpfICK1Y

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Glenn Greenwald is based IMO. I listen to him every day.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

I suspect Amy Goodman went to Epstein Island with Chomsky. Both went from a razor sharp foreign policy analysis to SUDDENLY becoming Dim party sycophants some time in the 90s. This was around the time of the woke coup against Pacifica radio. I am an old Earth First! guy who now identifies as right wing it has gotten so bad. But I have the back of the few non woke leftists left.

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Rachel's avatar

Amy Goodman is TERRIBLE now. I'm 44 and tuned out of politics when we invaded Iraq- it just got me so mad I couldn't handle reading the news anymore. But I see these old clips of her and it's nothing like what she is now. I'm an old school leftist who has voted Democrat but who would NEVER vote for this woke Dem bullshit. I HATE IT. Therefore I'd never watch Democracy Now these days

Another random thought, because you made me think of KPFK.

Wtf is Richard Wolff? Controlled opposition? In the past couple months his entire tune has changed. "We're so happy about the UAW strike and Teansters won this great contract" which would be awesome if they were true. But they're bullshit! I wrote to Wolff, I cited like 10 articles about how corrupt the UAW and Teamsters' current bureaucracies are. His assistant wrote back to say he would write back. Then he never did. I'm so sick of hearing Wolff forward the union bureaucracies' propaganda.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

I saw Amy Goodman speak in Ann Arbor before her turn to the dark side and she spoke for 2 hours straight about U.S. foreign policy atrocities without notes, so she is not stupid. She either was bribed or her family was threatened, or they have dirt on her, or she wanted to get rich, but she undoubtedly did some kind of NPR speak Dim party partisan 180.

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Rachel's avatar

It's so annoying when people think they can educate the ruling class into enlightenment. Like, I love the Revolutionary Blackout Network (RBN). By and large, I will listen to their whole show.

But when Cornel West went off the deep end on Jimmy Dore, RBN did an analysis. And Nick says, "We TOLD Cornel to focus on class! We told him three times!"

Now I don't think Nick is stupid, I think he knows by now this wasn't a mistake.

All to say, I appreciate your comment about people getting bought off. That's exactly what happens, and I think it's good to call it out.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Yes, I call myself "right" now, but am a big Jimmy Dore fan. A material class analysis has nothing to do with imperialist war or mutilating children in trans cult.

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Rachel's avatar

Oh God, you're so on it. I cannot stand trans talk. Absolutely cannot stand it. Pronouns? Omg. But you gotta hand it to establishment psychologists for thinking it up. You know someone was in the room saying, "wait. We're gonna convince people to change their gender?! And then whaaaa???"

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Diana Barahona's avatar

Some organizations were taken over by the Luciferian capitalist class, e.g., Freedom House, the Communist Party USA, the ACLU, the SPLC.

Most, however were FORMED by the Luciferian capitalist class, e.g., the ADL, Code Pink, the PSL and ANSWER.

I saw how Media Benjamin strong-armed California Greens into voting for a candidate who wouldn't threaten John Kerry in 2004, even though most Greens had voted for Peter Camejo, who was a placeholder for Ralph Nader. So Media was always deep-state.

I also watched as Pacifica Radio was taken over by the CIA.

That's why I always put "Luciferian" before "capitalist class"--you cannot ignore the human-sacrifice rituals and Satanic symbolism of the ruling class. This isn't an eccentricity of bored, wealthy degenerates: it goes back at least 4,500 years. The Committee of 300 are direct descendants of the Anunnaki.

"Satanic Rituals of America's Ruling Families"

https://inscribedonthebelievingmind.blog/2023/08/10/satanic-rituals-americas-ruling-families/

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Rachel's avatar

I agree with the vibe of your comment, but as an atheist I shy from calling it that. "Evil" suffices for me. Besides, the entire corrupt government is shuttling to islands with sex slaves.

I will say I'm curious about Matt Gaetz. That he was smeared so successfully (well it worked on Dems, not sure about Republicans), and then to hear him wanna vote single issue stuff- I mean he must be getting calls now, "I'll give you 300 million dollars to shut up."

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Rachel's avatar

OH damn re ANSWER. Do you have any reading on that? I enjoy 50% of the Socialist Program with Brian Becker, but 50% of it just makes me want to vomit.

I did wonder, how is this dude saying he's been everywhere in the world? How did he afford to fly to North Korea? I mean I love that he went there. But how the hell did he afford a plane ticket if he's a freaking organizer?

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djean111's avatar

The Democrats really only stand for identity politics, war, money, and smear campaigns, as far as I can tell. They literally are now just a very dangerous cult, IMO, etc. As Kissinger and/or other people have noted, and I have paraphrased - the Democratic Party has no principles, it only has interests. Also read somewhere that it takes the Democrats to actually implement horrid Republican policies. Whilst blaming the Republicans.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Yes often the establishment gets wars that benefit transnational capital under Democrats.

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The Passionate Progressive's avatar

Question: Did anyone see or hear of Code Pink during the Obomba Administration? Code Pink is in the Dark Ages vis a vis the dysfunctional US so-called left peace movement. It's not about what your party orientation is, it's where you stand on the issues - not just peace but health care for all, social-economic justice and ecological collapse...Not been active in Code Pink since the early 2000's when they were mobilizing against the Iraq War. Did support them then, but have long thought they were more about theatrics iow narcissists. They were conspicuous from their absence at the Rage Against the War Machine Rally in Feb, 2023.....This 'stunt' further validates the narcissist label. Their position on 'negotiation with Russia' is equally pathetic, and revealing in its ignorance of Russian history/rationale. ...Finally, I applaud your stand on this that their movement is more about 'fund-raising' than the issue.

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djean111's avatar

For the Democrat Party, ALL issues are merely deliberately divisive campaign items and fundraising and vote-getting tools.

Also, I think I figured out what may be a reason that the GOP has so many radio and internet outlets, while the Dems have relatively few. It seems to me that GOP voters need to be constantly reminded of why they should be up in arms and vote GOP. Dem voters stubbornly cling to the idea of what the Dem Party used to stand for (if it ever really did), and therefore, IMO, Dem outlets would be needlessly preaching to a choir that is already brainwashed.

Honestly, if seeing Hillary - who kept lawyers on retainer to deal with Bill's "bimbo eruptions" - co-opt the #metoo movement did not make Democratic voters gag in disgust, the indoctrination is thorough and complete. No need to spend money on reminders. IMO.

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djean111's avatar

I just want to say that I seem to comment in broad terms nowadays, while all you brilliant people post facts'n'links'n'stuff. I used to do that, and I can be pretty good at recalling every fricking nasty thing the Dems have done. With links. But now the rot and corruption and madness sort of blurs everything into one hot horrible mess. So thank y'all for your informative posts. I always learn something.

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Innomen's avatar

BGJ is 100% full of shit. She's completely not interested in hearing how her entire job is fakery. She's dead silent on the dncfraud lawsuit and anything that might cast her fandom geek obsession in an anything but dire realism light. It's all a tv show. If you wanna end the war you have to paralyze the billionaires. Remember, the worlds largest protest ever happened trying to stop the Iraq war look how well that worked. At no point is us being 100% united in lip service gonna matter. That's the stakes here. And unless we general strike over it, exactly fuck all will happen.

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MrMickeysMom's avatar

Absolutely... Part of my family (big part) are the JW's from my mom's brothers side, as he married into that cult in the early 50's. Interesting to see how the 3rd generation of JW's. They seem to be able to recognize the world news on their Facebook pages than their parents (my contemporaries) every did.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Yes, this. And yes I get MTG sided with the Zio-Nazis which is extremely disappointing. Know some of us on the right actually have read Marx, Kropotkin, etc, and still watch Jimmy Dore, and have your back.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

Maybe that's a sign that Republics should stop trying to pander to the Code Pink peaceniks.

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