I think that, right now, this interview is mostly read and valued by those who already pretty much know what is happening, and are not gaslit and brainwashed by Western "media". It was lovely to see Hillary so venal and crotchety, listen to Amanpour whinging (Alex from the Duran has a hilarious take on Amanpour), read that Putin mopped the floor with Tucker, and one website is pretty sure that Tucker is a CIA asset, I could not follow the pretzel logic. Scott Ritter says he would have asked some different questions, but considers the interview a genius accomplishment by Tucker, opening doors and minds where possible and enabling further revelations. I am told Reddit is still aghast.
I am starting the weekend still aghast myself, having read that a Dem source says that the Dems knew Biden was having mental problems from the start, but were terrified that Bernie would beat Trump in a manner too overwhelming to manipulate. And now Biden is not going to be prosecuted for having classified documents because his mind and memory are gone - and the Dems rejoiced. It must be at least a little bit disturbing to the neo-cons that Putin is likely more intelligent than all of them smashed together into one steaming shitpile..
Thanks for your take on and analysis of the interview!
Can I have the dem source? I mean, I had already assumed that was true - (and why I will forever be pissed at Bernie for caving) - but I would like to see it myself!
I saw it on a youtube clip, I will go through my history and try and find it. The Dem source was not named, I think, just a source connected to the election campaign. I did not try and save the info because I think the whole election thing is just a giant very bad joke now. i sort of think of our elected officials now as chancres and boils, not "servants of the people".
Thanks as always - excellent commentary...A few tangentially related observations - watched the interview myself and it didn't disappoint.....Commentary from the usual suspects have revealed that the Oliver Stone interviews with President Putin - post 2016 US election are available online through Rumble. Also the observation that with the non-Eurasian continents of the world already plundered by the West, the only resources left to expand the cancer that is capitalism was to break up and plunder Eurasia and steal those resources....And this was the West's goal that President Putin called checkmate to....Wondering out loud what will happen when Putin leaves office???? Or will the dust have settled by then??? In other related news illustrative of Putin's comment's, especially about the Western controlled media, or from the Ray McGovern words, the MICIMATT (Military Industrial Congressional Intelligence Media Academic Think Tank) Complex in action, just read the annual (12/04/2023) address by the President of the Association of Slavic East European and Eurasian Studies (ASEEES)....Subject of the address is, 'De-centering Russia: Challenges and Opportunities'. One can find the address on the Association's website.
I'm not going to wonder about what happens when Putin leaves office; that's the Russians' problem. I do wonder if this interview won't help lead to an awakening like Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" did.
Putin mentioned that journalism could break down stupid ways of looking at the world and bring about change. It has, and it can, and I can only hope it will do so again.
Yeah, I'm guessing Oliver Stone's rumble channel would have his great interview upon download for a smart TV these days. I wish we knew history as the Russians seem to. I knew Putin's recall would be excellent. I never studied or found this history in the usual manner!
I found the interview fascinating and, in many ways shocking to hear a national leader provide interesting commentary, historical and national security context and have a vocabulary extending well beyond "No joke!"
You summed it up well: "Putin was calm, relaxed, thoughtful, and displayed a healthy sense of humor. He didn’t trip over his tongue once, never talked about his hairy legs or sniffed a young girl’s hair, and didn’t even confuse Mexico with Egypt, which is hard to do for Joe Biden because both have pyramids and brown people."
One friend was dismissive, saying Putin is "a murderer". And Joe Biden isn't? Same with Trump , Obama ... and every other president in American history? Please.
It was stunning -- though no surprise -- to see how little mention, much less real coverage of the interview was in the mainstream corporate media the morning after. I think a peer leader speaking so intelligently and calmly and with deep historical understanding literally stunned the stenographers we call journalists. They simply couldn't process it or wrap their constricted nationalistic neocon cellophane around it all and could do nothing more than malign Tucker Carlson.
Putin's invitation to talks over Ukraine put a match to the cluttered junk pile of US/Nato lies and pretension about the need for war as yet another wave of young Ukrainian men are thrown into the US meat grinder. It's tragically amusing to see the dodging and blaming, lying and finger wagging by the incompetent, corrupt and morally empty and just plain stupid western leadership class.
Tucker Carlson did the nation and the world a real service daring to go where no American corporate 'journalist' is willing -- or permitted -- to go. If there is any hope for us it will be through the work of truly independent and courageous journalists and open and free media platforms like Rumble.
I thanked Breanna for the transcript. I found the interview which we viewed on our smart TV's rumble app, therefore, Tucker's channel (highly recommend downloading rumble app for TV viewing), and now I have the transcript. Meanwhile, the dunderheads of my circle can always be given a direct quote, and once they remark how useful that history was, I'll confirm from whence it came.
We actually watched it on Rumble. If something is on both YouTube and Rumble, I always watch it on Rumble because nobody self-censors themselves there.
"By the time the Cold War ended, the MIC was so entrenched and so dominant in the American government that dismantling the war machine and diverting all that money, knowledge and skill into more peaceful pursuits like designing airplanes whose doors don’t fall off in mid-flight, or trains that can go hundreds of miles at hundreds of miles an hour without derailing, was completely unthinkable to the American ruling class. "
This pretty much sums up why the US is in the state of decay that we currently are.
I'm no fan of Tucker Carlson, but he did good to interview Putin in Russia and to let the interview be seen on social media platforms instead of selling it to a network that operates as a propaganda smoke machine for the Ministry of Truth. Lots of good nuggets of information that the US and the West need to hear and consider in it. Thanks for the summary and links.
I'm wondering when the West will wake up to the fact that the mythical GDP is, in a financialized world....
Just a myth.
Finance doesn't care about anything other than numbers.
Economy is, in the end, really just what is real and is held in your hands. Finance is just an account pretending to play magic with numbers until everything comes crashing down.
Russia has an economy, after they left communism.
The West has finance, because they embraced capitalism and not realistic mercantilism where humans and reality matter - only big bankers, elites, and their numbers.
You tell me which of those two systems will win, long term. Russia seems fairly confident about it.
You know, that's something of a physiocratic argument, and a good one. Russia's wealth comes from its own resources and the productivity of its own people. Putin said that Russia couldn't let Ukraine join the EU under the conditions the EU announced, which started the immediate sequence of events which led to the Maidan coup.
Putin is a patriot, a nationalist, and something of a mercantilist, I guess. There was no way he would allow European goods to flood Russian markets and destroy Russian industry. The German leadership, OTOH, sacrificed Germany's industrial base to globalist financial capitalism, just like the US previously did.
Russian capitalism is based on the same things American capitalism was in World War II--its own resources. Right now it's being managed in a nationalistic manner. Of course it has more staying power than the West's giant casinos we call stock and bond markets.
It may have even started earlier than that.... I've only been catching up on my history after Ukraine, but I'm a quick learner, and Catholics have a history with Russia. (some of it propaganda, some not, have to dig to see through the neocons on the right, and progressives on the left). Well, after the Iron Curtain came down the USSR let the USSA financiers in and, to my knowledge, their oligarchs let us gut their industrial base. It's why they had such a rough recovery in the 80's and 90's and why they detest us so much. There's no way they'd let us do it again.
He knows what the score is on that front. Better to do things like leave the oil in the ground than sell it for inflating US debt on 30 year t-bills. Dumb and Dumber in the good old USS of A for sanctioning them.
This is just an off-the-wall theory - the Duran guys, or maybe just Alex, were wondering why on Earth Germany would be so committed to ruining Russia that Germany is actually ruining its own economy. The US/UK/EU seems bizarrely focused on destroying Russia. Since so very many Nazis did not flee to odd little towns in Argentina, but were welcomed into the governments of the US and other western countries - I am now thinking that the Germans are hell-bent on revenge for WWII. After all, the west can rape and pillage Africa and South America for resources - but this demented push to literally dismantle Russia seems vengeful. IMO, etc.
Well, a lot of Russophobes who identified as one Russian-oppressed people or the other have been rising to positions of power in the West for some time.
Jimmy Carter had Zbigniew Brzezinski, a Pole who hated Russia. Madeline Albright was a Czech. One of Canada's ministers is Ukrainian. And Victoria Nuland has a transparently pathological hatred of Russia and Russians.
So there's probably some truth to what the Duran said.
I finally read the transcript of the interview on the Kremlin web site at http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 . I prefer that site simply because it's the official translation of Russian to English.
For me, there were two surprises in the interview - his historical knowledge (already commented on by many) and because he was more open than I expected about the deceptions by the West from the Minsk accords and the Istanbul negotiations.
While he was open, in several cases he didn't provide details and suggested Tucker ask Biden and other US officials for their responses to Russia.
Good interview, but I regretfully suspect there will be no real changes, and we'll find out more if the House also ends up supporting another $60 billion to be wasted in Ukraine. I say wasted as Ukraine is already devastated with very few people left to be militarized, though there are now more deaths of Ukrainian women soldiers being reported.
It doesn't look like the House is going to send any more money to Ukraine, not in time to save the current regime, anyway. Jake Sullivan and Turtle McConnell's bipartisan compromise did nothing to seal the border, Trump damned it, and now Mike Johnson won't budge.
As of last week, Russia was firing 10,000 artillery shells a day to Ukraine's 3000. The Europeans are supplying some but they can't keep it up. The British are completely out. Another few weeks of this and part of the Ukrainian front will simply disintegrate, and Zelensky will quite possibly be overthrown.
I hope you are right, but I know there will be lots of pressure from Genocide Joe's forces. If there's no funding, it may be sooner - once upon a time the Ukrainian elections were supposed to be in March and Ukrainians are finally noticing.
Thanks for sharing this.
I think that, right now, this interview is mostly read and valued by those who already pretty much know what is happening, and are not gaslit and brainwashed by Western "media". It was lovely to see Hillary so venal and crotchety, listen to Amanpour whinging (Alex from the Duran has a hilarious take on Amanpour), read that Putin mopped the floor with Tucker, and one website is pretty sure that Tucker is a CIA asset, I could not follow the pretzel logic. Scott Ritter says he would have asked some different questions, but considers the interview a genius accomplishment by Tucker, opening doors and minds where possible and enabling further revelations. I am told Reddit is still aghast.
I am starting the weekend still aghast myself, having read that a Dem source says that the Dems knew Biden was having mental problems from the start, but were terrified that Bernie would beat Trump in a manner too overwhelming to manipulate. And now Biden is not going to be prosecuted for having classified documents because his mind and memory are gone - and the Dems rejoiced. It must be at least a little bit disturbing to the neo-cons that Putin is likely more intelligent than all of them smashed together into one steaming shitpile..
Thanks for your take on and analysis of the interview!
Can I have the dem source? I mean, I had already assumed that was true - (and why I will forever be pissed at Bernie for caving) - but I would like to see it myself!
I saw it on a youtube clip, I will go through my history and try and find it. The Dem source was not named, I think, just a source connected to the election campaign. I did not try and save the info because I think the whole election thing is just a giant very bad joke now. i sort of think of our elected officials now as chancres and boils, not "servants of the people".
Thanks as always - excellent commentary...A few tangentially related observations - watched the interview myself and it didn't disappoint.....Commentary from the usual suspects have revealed that the Oliver Stone interviews with President Putin - post 2016 US election are available online through Rumble. Also the observation that with the non-Eurasian continents of the world already plundered by the West, the only resources left to expand the cancer that is capitalism was to break up and plunder Eurasia and steal those resources....And this was the West's goal that President Putin called checkmate to....Wondering out loud what will happen when Putin leaves office???? Or will the dust have settled by then??? In other related news illustrative of Putin's comment's, especially about the Western controlled media, or from the Ray McGovern words, the MICIMATT (Military Industrial Congressional Intelligence Media Academic Think Tank) Complex in action, just read the annual (12/04/2023) address by the President of the Association of Slavic East European and Eurasian Studies (ASEEES)....Subject of the address is, 'De-centering Russia: Challenges and Opportunities'. One can find the address on the Association's website.
I'm not going to wonder about what happens when Putin leaves office; that's the Russians' problem. I do wonder if this interview won't help lead to an awakening like Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" did.
Putin mentioned that journalism could break down stupid ways of looking at the world and bring about change. It has, and it can, and I can only hope it will do so again.
Yeah, I'm guessing Oliver Stone's rumble channel would have his great interview upon download for a smart TV these days. I wish we knew history as the Russians seem to. I knew Putin's recall would be excellent. I never studied or found this history in the usual manner!
I found the interview fascinating and, in many ways shocking to hear a national leader provide interesting commentary, historical and national security context and have a vocabulary extending well beyond "No joke!"
You summed it up well: "Putin was calm, relaxed, thoughtful, and displayed a healthy sense of humor. He didn’t trip over his tongue once, never talked about his hairy legs or sniffed a young girl’s hair, and didn’t even confuse Mexico with Egypt, which is hard to do for Joe Biden because both have pyramids and brown people."
One friend was dismissive, saying Putin is "a murderer". And Joe Biden isn't? Same with Trump , Obama ... and every other president in American history? Please.
It was stunning -- though no surprise -- to see how little mention, much less real coverage of the interview was in the mainstream corporate media the morning after. I think a peer leader speaking so intelligently and calmly and with deep historical understanding literally stunned the stenographers we call journalists. They simply couldn't process it or wrap their constricted nationalistic neocon cellophane around it all and could do nothing more than malign Tucker Carlson.
Putin's invitation to talks over Ukraine put a match to the cluttered junk pile of US/Nato lies and pretension about the need for war as yet another wave of young Ukrainian men are thrown into the US meat grinder. It's tragically amusing to see the dodging and blaming, lying and finger wagging by the incompetent, corrupt and morally empty and just plain stupid western leadership class.
Tucker Carlson did the nation and the world a real service daring to go where no American corporate 'journalist' is willing -- or permitted -- to go. If there is any hope for us it will be through the work of truly independent and courageous journalists and open and free media platforms like Rumble.
Thank you for this. The New York Times coverage was a disgrace.
The New York Times’ coverage of everything is a disgrace,what else is new.
Yes, but it’s always good to read the press releases of the Empire management.
You're welcome. As for the Times, all I'll say is that at least they're consistent.
I thanked Breanna for the transcript. I found the interview which we viewed on our smart TV's rumble app, therefore, Tucker's channel (highly recommend downloading rumble app for TV viewing), and now I have the transcript. Meanwhile, the dunderheads of my circle can always be given a direct quote, and once they remark how useful that history was, I'll confirm from whence it came.
We actually watched it on Rumble. If something is on both YouTube and Rumble, I always watch it on Rumble because nobody self-censors themselves there.
Will people ever be able to view mainstream media in the same way? I hope not.
"By the time the Cold War ended, the MIC was so entrenched and so dominant in the American government that dismantling the war machine and diverting all that money, knowledge and skill into more peaceful pursuits like designing airplanes whose doors don’t fall off in mid-flight, or trains that can go hundreds of miles at hundreds of miles an hour without derailing, was completely unthinkable to the American ruling class. "
This pretty much sums up why the US is in the state of decay that we currently are.
I'm no fan of Tucker Carlson, but he did good to interview Putin in Russia and to let the interview be seen on social media platforms instead of selling it to a network that operates as a propaganda smoke machine for the Ministry of Truth. Lots of good nuggets of information that the US and the West need to hear and consider in it. Thanks for the summary and links.
I'm wondering when the West will wake up to the fact that the mythical GDP is, in a financialized world....
Just a myth.
Finance doesn't care about anything other than numbers.
Economy is, in the end, really just what is real and is held in your hands. Finance is just an account pretending to play magic with numbers until everything comes crashing down.
Russia has an economy, after they left communism.
The West has finance, because they embraced capitalism and not realistic mercantilism where humans and reality matter - only big bankers, elites, and their numbers.
You tell me which of those two systems will win, long term. Russia seems fairly confident about it.
You know, that's something of a physiocratic argument, and a good one. Russia's wealth comes from its own resources and the productivity of its own people. Putin said that Russia couldn't let Ukraine join the EU under the conditions the EU announced, which started the immediate sequence of events which led to the Maidan coup.
Putin is a patriot, a nationalist, and something of a mercantilist, I guess. There was no way he would allow European goods to flood Russian markets and destroy Russian industry. The German leadership, OTOH, sacrificed Germany's industrial base to globalist financial capitalism, just like the US previously did.
Russian capitalism is based on the same things American capitalism was in World War II--its own resources. Right now it's being managed in a nationalistic manner. Of course it has more staying power than the West's giant casinos we call stock and bond markets.
Yeah, you're right on.
It may have even started earlier than that.... I've only been catching up on my history after Ukraine, but I'm a quick learner, and Catholics have a history with Russia. (some of it propaganda, some not, have to dig to see through the neocons on the right, and progressives on the left). Well, after the Iron Curtain came down the USSR let the USSA financiers in and, to my knowledge, their oligarchs let us gut their industrial base. It's why they had such a rough recovery in the 80's and 90's and why they detest us so much. There's no way they'd let us do it again.
He knows what the score is on that front. Better to do things like leave the oil in the ground than sell it for inflating US debt on 30 year t-bills. Dumb and Dumber in the good old USS of A for sanctioning them.
This is just an off-the-wall theory - the Duran guys, or maybe just Alex, were wondering why on Earth Germany would be so committed to ruining Russia that Germany is actually ruining its own economy. The US/UK/EU seems bizarrely focused on destroying Russia. Since so very many Nazis did not flee to odd little towns in Argentina, but were welcomed into the governments of the US and other western countries - I am now thinking that the Germans are hell-bent on revenge for WWII. After all, the west can rape and pillage Africa and South America for resources - but this demented push to literally dismantle Russia seems vengeful. IMO, etc.
Well, a lot of Russophobes who identified as one Russian-oppressed people or the other have been rising to positions of power in the West for some time.
Jimmy Carter had Zbigniew Brzezinski, a Pole who hated Russia. Madeline Albright was a Czech. One of Canada's ministers is Ukrainian. And Victoria Nuland has a transparently pathological hatred of Russia and Russians.
So there's probably some truth to what the Duran said.
I finally read the transcript of the interview on the Kremlin web site at http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 . I prefer that site simply because it's the official translation of Russian to English.
For me, there were two surprises in the interview - his historical knowledge (already commented on by many) and because he was more open than I expected about the deceptions by the West from the Minsk accords and the Istanbul negotiations.
While he was open, in several cases he didn't provide details and suggested Tucker ask Biden and other US officials for their responses to Russia.
Good interview, but I regretfully suspect there will be no real changes, and we'll find out more if the House also ends up supporting another $60 billion to be wasted in Ukraine. I say wasted as Ukraine is already devastated with very few people left to be militarized, though there are now more deaths of Ukrainian women soldiers being reported.
It doesn't look like the House is going to send any more money to Ukraine, not in time to save the current regime, anyway. Jake Sullivan and Turtle McConnell's bipartisan compromise did nothing to seal the border, Trump damned it, and now Mike Johnson won't budge.
As of last week, Russia was firing 10,000 artillery shells a day to Ukraine's 3000. The Europeans are supplying some but they can't keep it up. The British are completely out. Another few weeks of this and part of the Ukrainian front will simply disintegrate, and Zelensky will quite possibly be overthrown.
We should know by April.
I hope you are right, but I know there will be lots of pressure from Genocide Joe's forces. If there's no funding, it may be sooner - once upon a time the Ukrainian elections were supposed to be in March and Ukrainians are finally noticing.