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The Passionate Progressive's avatar

I thought that this made so much sense. This may seem tangential but I’m wary of Robert F. Kennedy’s becoming the next ‘savior’ through the Democratic Party. In my opinion, there are no political leaders that are going to come in like the Lone Ranger and rescue us. My clue was Kennedy’s Putin bashing….I heard him recently interviewed and he critiqued the Ukraine War with the preface that ‘Putin is a thug’…. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that when the US is in an adversarial relationship with another country, it personalizes that relationship and makes it about the leader? What right do journalists and political elites have to judge other countries’ leaders? Look at the decades of pathetic leadership in the US….It seems to me that Kennedy was crouching his Ukraine War criticism in the terms that it just wasn’t being conducted in a smart way….In other words Russia was still the enemy….This entire demonization of Russia-China is really racist…And I can’t forget that Kennedy at the end of the day is part of that ruling class, and recall that Roosevelt, also part of the ruling class, put forth the social programs that he championed in order to save capitalism from itself. What foreign policy leadership needs is not this superiority complex over other cultures, it’s working on mutual cooperation and diplomacy around common problems like arms control, climate catastrophe, etc., etc.….You will get none of that from anyone within the ruling/political class….My apologies if this is off-topic but to some extent it addresses the issue(s) of what divides us on a macro scale….

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MrMickeysMom's avatar

I don't think this is off topic at all, thinking that we will once again do the same thing and how stupid some people have become. I had a weird feeling about RFK Jr., though I see how important he has been to point out the pandemic under Fauci. Here, with a comment as he made, we are seeing the latest version of what is supposed to "save us". I didn't hear the comment about Putin, but that should be the wake up call. I heard another activist who was drowned out by reporters when pointing out the obvious about Russia and China today. There is no growing common sense, in fact. There is opposite world, and it's a long shot trying to guess when we will be out in the streets, much less taking a good look in the mirror.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

RFK Jr. went against the establishment narrative on Covid, so bully for him there if you can forgive the Teddy Rooseveltism. You are right, however, in noting that RFK is a scion of our ruling political class, educated at Ivy League universities who never missed the opportunity to tell him how much that class deserves to rule, based on "merit," of course. If RFK Jr. doesn't believe that deep down, I'll eat a hat.

JFK was a Cold Warrior who damned near got us all killed in 1962. He had the sense to step back from the brink, but had it not been for one Russian commissar who ordered a Soviet sub not to launch a nuclear torpedo we would have had a nuclear war then. It was that close.

You are right to point out that RFK Jr. referred to Putin as a thug, and how US propaganda always targets the leaders of countries they don't like as comic book villains. RFK clearly sees both Russia and China as enemies, when the only evolutionarily viable thing for the US to do is to see them as necessary partners in maintaining a stable multipolar world.

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The Passionate Progressive's avatar

On your last point - more succinctly put than my notions....But to turn it back to the Dore/Sabs piece, the divisions promoted by the elites are not just on the domestic front...The kakistocracy is all about making China Russia as villains to distract from the myriad of US' domestic problems (education, health care, infrastructure, etc., etc.).....And China-Russia may have problems but education, infrastructure, homelessness are not among them - Belt & Road by Initiative by World Bank's own statistics is increasingly lifting people out of poverty....

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djean111's avatar

The US always goes after the leader. The Dems were quite desolate and whiny when they could not find a leader to attack when they turned on Occupy Wall Street after OWS said nope to being an Obama shill. Also - the Dems will almost always go for "pedophile!!!!!" when they smear men. That way they can sneer that you must support pedophiles if you do not agree with them. The contortions are amazing - Bernie was BAD because his son gave him a jacket (that did not cost as much as one Hillary hair appointment). Junior high bullies. But it works on some people.

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MrMickeysMom's avatar

This is so common sense when you (here's the task) THINK about it, Mr. & Mrs. America. I see Sabby has really come out with, but I wonder how much longer it will take for us to act like the French... too late? Fuck if I know.

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The Passionate Progressive's avatar

I have grown to enjoy commentary by Patrick Lawrence who writes for substack, Consortium News and formerly for the Nation. He had a great article on this entitled, French Streets and American Sofas....captures it beautifully....I wish I were wrong on my assessment of where we are going, but it seems to me in the wrong direction vis a vis we've never been that educated anyway and the propaganda and divisiveness have been taken to a new level....Though we've long been propagandized.....I recall hearing or reading something about it's being employed to a greater extent...Consider the Obama / Putin/ Trump projects as recent examples taken to newer levels.

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MizzGrizz's avatar

I read that article too,and I recommend it.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

On the bright side, if the US government wasn't worried about the French giving the American people ideas, they wouldn't be trying so hard to ignore the interesting times through which France is going right now.

How much longer? Until the working class is ready to move, and not one day sooner or later. When that does happen, no one will have seen it coming at that particular time, not even the revolutionaries themselves. The historical dialectic just works like that.

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