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It's also clear to me because my wife was Soviet and became Ukrainian - and I checked this with her before writing.

There's more to add to this statement:

"Ukrainians and Russians have lived side by side for centuries, and there has been much intermarriage and travel between the two. Even their languages are little more than different dialects of the same tongue."

It's important to realize that up until 1991 Ukrainians and Russians lived in the same country - the Soviet Union. There was no more difference between them than there is between Ohio and Indiana. Before that, they were together in the Russian Empire - but as a historian you know the details of borders better than I do.

So yes, there was a lot of intermarriage and travel. I now family in both Ukraine and Russia, and my wife says everyone in Ukraine can speak Russian, though Ukrainian is used more in western Ukraine than in the east. My wife is fluent in both and uses them interchangeably. Remember that Russian is Zelensky's native language!

I believe that it was only after 2013 that differences were manufactured and barriers between the two countries were created.

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Hi jbnw, I hope that you and family are doing well.

Yes you are right about 2013, even though the CIA helped the old

Banderites to leave the country as well as to prepare them as a new

underground since 1945.

You always blame Biden, which is understandable. However the coup on

the Maidan happened under Obama. And this nobelpeaceprice winner

should have stopped Poroshenko and insisted on the MinskII agreement

We now heard it from Stoltenberg that Ukrainian soldiers began training

under NATO since 2014. Biden just followed the prewritten script further.

Take care and let's hope for the best.

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Thank you, and I'm happy to say that the family is doing well and likes it here now!

You're very right that Obama should have insisted on the implementation of Minsk. I blame Biden though as he was the person with 11 or 12 trips to Kiev and insisted on having the Prosecutor General fired, in exchange for not holding up a billion dollars in aid. And, of course, that ended the investigation of the company where Biden's son was on the board.

It's finally making it into the media for an impeachment investigation.

Maybe Obama was just smarter at hiding it, but I do blame Biden more for his active role.

I will happily join you in wishing for the best!!

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

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Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

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PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol No. 7 – World-Wide Wars

❝We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-no-7-world-wide-wars

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The Western media can only say Ukraine lost the "counter offensive" failing to admit they have lost the war. NATO is reported to be preparing for a war of attrition. It appears they are very good at brinkmanship, not so good at war . The next few months will be interesting.

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May be, but unlike the West Russia has time on its side. So it can stretch

this out in its favor for at least another year. That, of course, would interfere

with our elections. It sounds as if the Dems push Zelenski to negotiate, which

he cannot afford to do with all the Bandarites surrounding him. Yet DC might

arrange another Diem fate like in Vietnam.

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

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Zelensky, Biden, Satanism, War, Greed, Theft, Propaganda, Domestic Spying, International Intrigue, Treason, Sedition, FTX, Ukraine, Israel . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/zelensky-biden-satanism-war-greed

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“In Washington right next to the Holocaust Museum is the Federal Reserve where they print the money. Is that an accident?” ― Louis Farrakhan

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PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocols of Zion: Protocol II – Economic Wars

❝The administrators, whom we shall choose from among the public, with strict regard to their capacities for servile obedience, will not be persons trained in the arts of government, and will therefore easily become pawns in our game in the hands of men of learning and genius who will be their advisers, specialists bred and reared from early childhood to rule the affairs of the whole world.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocols-of-zion-protocol-ii-economic

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