I have to say that I do believe in climate change that increasing emissions of C02 released in the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution are warming the planet...Although China bears the responsibility for current per capita releases of C02 historical responsibility rests with the global north (western Europe/US). ...I also believe that our fearless leaders have expressed no solutions to address the problem....To date, getting the global south to cut development in the interest of getting technological assistance from the global north and/or blaming the global south for over population wreaks of the hypocrisy that has long characterized the 'rules based order'.
You are on a roll, OB, and I can't wander off too far from what you say. But I will say this - For so many reasons, I hate dirty extractive industries with little to no oversight, chief among these are the oil & gas industry. This is because ground water and air and inflammatory health conditions are now "getting real". So, even though the math models are debatable about climate change in some circles, levels of PFOS and PFAS are not. Ewing's Sarcoma clusters here in SW PA are not debatable. Kidney and liver failure and skin rashes around fracking is not debatable. Captured industries... NOT debatable. It makes me want to take these motherfuckers of the industry and drag them over to a compressor station, leave them there with a portable-john and rations and see how long it takes for them to become symptomatic.
OB,you have pinpointed a problem I have had with ecological concerns since the seventies.
While climate change is a problem in a very real way,and we have known for a long time it was coming,somehow the arguments advanced never discuss the idea of elites giving up their profits from extractive industries or settling for less.No,it’s the working people who are told they have to sit by a candle end.
The goal of democratic socialism,which I favor,is modest prosperity and comfort for all,neither obscene wealth nor austerity.
Politicians like Jimmy Carter,Jerry Brown and even Ralph Nader make a mistake in another way.For them austerity is a matter of personal preference so they try to legislate it for all.That undercut
the parts of their message that could have genuinely made a difference.
I have to say that I do believe in climate change that increasing emissions of C02 released in the atmosphere since the Industrial Revolution are warming the planet...Although China bears the responsibility for current per capita releases of C02 historical responsibility rests with the global north (western Europe/US). ...I also believe that our fearless leaders have expressed no solutions to address the problem....To date, getting the global south to cut development in the interest of getting technological assistance from the global north and/or blaming the global south for over population wreaks of the hypocrisy that has long characterized the 'rules based order'.
You are on a roll, OB, and I can't wander off too far from what you say. But I will say this - For so many reasons, I hate dirty extractive industries with little to no oversight, chief among these are the oil & gas industry. This is because ground water and air and inflammatory health conditions are now "getting real". So, even though the math models are debatable about climate change in some circles, levels of PFOS and PFAS are not. Ewing's Sarcoma clusters here in SW PA are not debatable. Kidney and liver failure and skin rashes around fracking is not debatable. Captured industries... NOT debatable. It makes me want to take these motherfuckers of the industry and drag them over to a compressor station, leave them there with a portable-john and rations and see how long it takes for them to become symptomatic.
OB,you have pinpointed a problem I have had with ecological concerns since the seventies.
While climate change is a problem in a very real way,and we have known for a long time it was coming,somehow the arguments advanced never discuss the idea of elites giving up their profits from extractive industries or settling for less.No,it’s the working people who are told they have to sit by a candle end.
The goal of democratic socialism,which I favor,is modest prosperity and comfort for all,neither obscene wealth nor austerity.
Politicians like Jimmy Carter,Jerry Brown and even Ralph Nader make a mistake in another way.For them austerity is a matter of personal preference so they try to legislate it for all.That undercut
the parts of their message that could have genuinely made a difference.