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Innomen's avatar

Excellent overview. Keep doing these.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

I intend to. I finally figured out how to keep them coming--if I don't get too lazy. :)

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djean111's avatar

Bravo! Thank you, lovely list.

When the Covid thing started, I decided almost immediately - nope. EVERYTHING about it was skeevy. At JPR, I would always just calmly list my reasons, and I was actually amazed at the vituperation of some of the jab-pushers towards those of us who said nope. As I said elsewhere a few days ago, I do not feel vindicated, I feel sad and angry. Especially since one of my very very best friends, who has helped me out tremendously over the years, and with whom I was planning to spend some remaining years (both around 78, still have all our marbles) with in a nice assisted living situation - says she does not want to see me unless I get the jab, because without it I am dangerous to her and her health problems. I just cannot do it. I feel terrible about it, especially since she seems to feel my refusal has something to do with politics or Florida. Nope.

Navalny was thisclose to being exchanged for a Russian imprisoned in Germany. For Putin to have murdered him makes no sense in any way. Blood clot. I assume the CIA is organizing protests at Navalny's funeral.

I heard somewhere that the wave heights at the time those Navy SEALS got on a ladder off the side of their ship were officially too high according to regulations, but their commanding officer told them to do it anyway.

I assumed the election was rigged when the Dems made it a crime to say the election was rigged. With a carve-out for Hillary Clinton, of course, who would still be touring on that being the reason she was beat by The Donald, except for the hilarious fact that she and Billy could not sell tickets. And it is difficult to rig "concert" attendance, too many videos of empty seats.

Thank you for the list, and I appreciate the work you put into it.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

I well remember those Covidiot days on JPR. Even I got fooled into thinking everyone should get vaxxed for about two weeks, before I remembered Biology 101's section on immunology back at UTSA.

I committed the sin of doing my own research, and found that that science had NOT changed.

I didn't know about a potential prisoner swap involving Navalny. Sounds like the Germans got a break.

I can confirm that bit about the waves. The Navy statement described the seas as "rough." Rough means something very different to the Navy than it does to boaters on a reservoir. There's no way they should have boarded a ship with that kind of height differential in those conditions.

As for the election, I figured if they could do it to Bernie--twice--they could do it to Trump once.

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BerndOut's avatar

My first thought for Navalny was that if anything, CIA probably had a hand in it. He’s far more useful to the cause in his current condition.

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jbnw's avatar

I wonder what SFFH would have to say today - it was a huge topic elsewhere.

As for vaccinations, I had 3, and I also had 6 months of major breathing issues etc. very early on before vaccines were available but I couldn't get tested. Doctors couldn't find an issue - they now say probably covid. With that scary time, I was happy to try.

I still wonder if the Russian one might have been better - we'll never know.

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djean111's avatar

I also wonder about the Russian one, and the Cuban one. I do think many many people would have been saved if they had been told to take high doses of C and D. Which I was doing from the start. And - gasp! - Ivermectin. To me, it was criminal and murderous to tell people to stay home, no treatment, until they could not breathe, and then go to a hospital. To die.

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jbnw's avatar

The husband of a student I knew in Russia was on the Sputnik vaccine team; one reason I would have been happy to try it.

For me, it's also interesting to see that much of the world treated it the same way - hard to interpret testing requirements and empty airports - I remember photos of lines of people at a Moscow airport testing people. You had to have very specific tests to fly through Amsterdam, but no requirements as a transit passenger in Istanbul - once you could figure it out!

I was traveling to see my now-wife in Ukraine, covid adding to the distance challenges. In Ukraine life was pretty normal, compared to the US restrictions.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

The Covid lockdowns literally killed SFFH. He needed surgery, but they wouldn't do it because Covid, and the poor man died. He is one of those excess deaths referred to so often.

They scared the shit out of him, too. The guy was afraid to go anywhere or do anything because he was convinced Covid would kill him. It didn't, the measures taken in the name of keeping him safe did, and the authorities KNEW it was bullshit. It enrages me every time I think about it.

I miss Steve.

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Don a.k.a. MRDMK's avatar

I knew Steve was sick, he told me. Did not know surgery was a remedy for his condition. He just said his doctors were working with him. I also miss Steve.

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jbnw's avatar

I did not know he couldn't get his surgery - that makes me very sad. It took me months for lung tests - nothing ever found.

I miss Steve too - great heart and humor and wonderful silly quizzes. I may never have told anyone - when the war in Ukraine started, he offered to take my wife and daughter across the Mexican border if we could get them there :-)

Makes me smile and teary-eyed at the same time - he was a great guy.

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MrMickeysMom's avatar

I miss the hell out of JPR's fearless leader, SFFH, but I agree that they did scare the shit out of him, and it was a relatively straight forward surgery in the ridiculous system within NM. I regret never getting his wife/co-admin to respond to us afterwards. I'm still pissed off at Deadpool (never was his real son, but I thought (wrongly) how much he could have acted that way and helped us maintain that discussion board.

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The Passionate Progressive's avatar

Didn't know any of the details about SFFH - to include who all of you were referring to by the initials....A great loss....all of the JPR crowd 'usual suspects', especially those here are virtual friends and treasures....

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BerndOut's avatar

Thanks for the details on that very sad situation.

There certainly were conflicts on JPR over the jab, but I think everyone was at least respectful about it. Just like our discussions about Trump or Her being the lesser evil (I like to think Genocide Joe has made a sufficient case for those of us who leaned Trump!)

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Pxx's avatar

need photos from the mullet contest

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djean111's avatar

A while back, when it was fashionable (actually, getting out front of a story) for politicians to admit they had smoked some weed in college or whatever, I think it was Lawton Chiles who said I never smoked marijuana but I did smoke a mullet in my backyard. Paraphrasing, and it still makes me laugh.

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Dude I so appreciate your radical but common sense perspective that has broad appeal across the ideological divides that are stoked by corporate media.

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Don a.k.a. MRDMK's avatar

Hi People, my wish is everyone is in good health

The name of the person reference in the Tucker Carlson interview is Mike Benz.

Carlson has an interview of Benz posted on Rumble "Everything You Need to Know about the Government’s Mass Censorship Campaign":

https://rumble.com/v4dtxtu-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-governments-mass-censorship-campaign.html

Here is a link to Foundation for Freedom Online (About page), which Benz is the founder:

https://foundationforfreedomonline.com/about/

Our Executive Director, Mike Benz, is a former State Department official with responsibilities in formulating and negotiating US foreign policy on international communications and information technology matters. Mr. Benz founded FFO as a civil society institution building on his experience in the role of championing digital freedom around the world in the public sector.

I can confirm Benz did work for the State Department in 2020. Also, it appears The Daily Beast did a hit piece on Benz October 7, 2023 saying he is spreading racist theories. Like you, I first heard of Benz from Russel Brand.

More information can be found here at the Federalist Website. This is the paper Russel Brand was reading from:

2024 Is Already Being Stolen Through Mass Gov'tCensorship

HTTPS://thefederalist.com/2024/02/20/government-backed-censors-who-rigged-the-2020-election-are-now-stealing-2024/

Here is my comment on the interview. Mike Benz does use many names, dates and places. From my memory, Benz is using facts for is conclusions. The problem is Tucker Carlson's interview is, Benz does generalize many of these facts which can be problematic for a proper analysis. The people, institutions and dates mentioned by Benz can be confirmed by the reporting from the "Twitter Files." In fact, there is little in new information in this interview. Benz does a good job of putting the whole affair in context.

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Don a.k.a. MRDMK's avatar

Here is something that needs to added to this discussion. It concerns the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) signed by President Barack Obama at 11:59 December 31, 2012. This bill contained language for the authorization of psyops to be used by U.S. government institutions on the American Public. This is not mentioned by Mike Benz in his timeline. Benz does mention by 2014, both governments (Western) and private enterprises do see the need for more control of the citizens. In 2016, President Obama does sign another NDAA giving the Intelligence Community (IC) authority to act upon U.S. Citizens when determined as necessary by U.S. Government Institutions. When the media and citizens voice their disapproval of these amendments, they public was told these people are crazy, they do not know what they are talking about, it is a big conspiracy theory, etc... Benz misses these exact points, but does mention at these periods there are actions being taken.

Business Insider: The NDAA Legalizes The Use Of Propaganda On The US Public

The newest version of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) includes an amendment that would legalize the use of propaganda on the American public, reports Michael Hastings of BuzzFeed.

The amendment — proposed by Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) and Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and passed in the House last Friday afternoon — would effectively nullify the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which explicitly forbids information and psychological operations aimed at influencing U.S. public opinion.

Thornberry said that the current law “ties the hands of America’s diplomatic officials, military, and others by inhibiting our ability to effectively communicate in a credible way,” according to Buzzfeed.

The vote came two days after a federal judged ruled that an indefinite detention provision in the annual defense bill was unconstitutional.

LINK:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5?op=1

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djean111's avatar

Here is the propaganda plan for the Covid jab (I refuse to say vaccination) to be sold to the American people -

Persuasive messaging to increase COVID-19 vaccine uptake intentions

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8531257/

Nope. None of the propaganda overrode my gut nope. Also this indicates to me that our government does not think we are very smart. Seeing this list made me realize that likely everything that comes out of government might very well be just bullshit wrapped in rhetoric.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Thanks for that Federalist article. I go to them sometimes, but missed this one. You're right, everything IS in the Twitter Files.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Interesting tidbit about Aaron Bushnell. I've also joined an ecumenical group that is based on peace and service to the world. It's good to know how grounded he was in human rights and the love of neighbor. He was acting on his conscience and not suffering from mental illness as some online trolls have implied. RIP Aaron.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

He was the next best thing to a monk. It sure looks like he made a principled stand. BTW, CNN tweeted out the full text of his last statement about why he was doing it. I also asked my 70-something neighbor, who was career Army, if he recalled ever hearing of an active duty military person immolating himself.

He thought for a few seconds and said No. He made it clear Bushnell's sacrifice hit him solidly.

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Penelope Prill's avatar

Excellent. I depend on you.

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djean111's avatar

Looks like the anti-semitic thing attributed to Bushnell was made up - here is an accounting of how someone actually waded in and looked for the post.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-truth-behind-aaron-234702812.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHUuY9vh36gTLwIn4Jms2sJcc6Vl1HAVQi6uIf62417u2uNUszEdccro-3_2W1OV-Sj_RSj2BmZ3mCh-s0gCmyKfB9rNl8AziiDto3ipr6ntcIMRroftyZ30LX1yGFec5S6iG9E46z27AxDATRYCrVlSGfxe6arHbajiihUtJQsW

Some veterans burned their uniforms at a vigil for Aaron.

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