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jbnw's avatar

Well, that's an interesting theory. I'll just say that I won't expect it until Shoigu or Putin make a cease-fire offer public. I also have my doubts that the war will end before Odessa, Mykolaiv, Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkiv are given the opportunity to join Russia.

While my 100% Ukrainian, Russian and Ukrainian speaking, wife doesn't like to talk about the war, we both think that what remains of Ukraine will have little financial support and joining Russia would be better for any region that chooses to do so.

And a referendum vote would have to include those displaced by the war. While my wife is now in the US because of the war, she's a Ukrainian citizen and deserves the opportunity to help decide what happens to her oblast.

A bit off today's topic, but a critical conversation for the end of the conflict, not just a doubtful cease-fire. She remembers the nine year civil war from the Minsk accords "cease-fire."

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A Ukrainian spokesperson on Ukrainian TV said yesterday that there was a peace treaty signed that was all about neutrality, but the US/UK shot it down. Even walked back the "Russia retreated from Kiev" bs.

What we all knew anyway, but now on UK TV. The eye of Mordor has now turned to Israel. Zelensky is just as toasted as Saruman.

UK is saying hey, it is in our Constitution to join NATO - as if that cannot be as easily taken out as it was inserted. Some are calling for a referendum on peace. Or not. Someone said UK parliament will kill each other over this. Meanwhile, Zelensky is going to announce a "very complicated" new conscription plan.

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